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SlowlyReading's avatar

This is fair and reasonable. Much of the Right's backlash comes from the apparent extremism of the liberal/Ramaswamy position, which appears to be:

* heritage counts for literally nothing in terms of "Americanness"

* assimilation is basically automatic and guaranteed, and anyone who can pass a citizenship test and doesn't openly break the laws counts as "assimilated"

* concerns about assimilation and cultural change aren't legitimate reasons to limit immigration; indeed, such concerns are 'racist and Hitler'

* even suggesting that there could ever be cultural downsides to immigration is also racist and Hitler. The Ellis Islanders gave us Tammany Hall, the Mafia, a few decades of anarchist bombings, the CPUSA and a bunch of Soviet spies. (I'm an Ellis Islander fwiw). The Ellis Islanders did a lot of great things too, but the old stock had good reasons to worry in 1924.

If the mainstream post-1965 GOP position had been: "Immigration brings many good things, but must be carefully regulated in the national interest for cultural reasons" this wouldn't even be an issue. But the GOP dogma from 1965 to Trump was de facto: GDP uber alles and anyone who says the Pledge of Allegiance is American. So that's how we got here.

Mark Steinbach's avatar

identifying America as a philosophical and legal culture is practically indistinguishable from Ramaswamy’s statement. Nobody would say that becoming an assimilated Pole or Korean means simply adopting certain legal and philosophical ideals set out in their respective constitutions. There’s a thick set of non political ethnic behavior and traditions one must learn. The same is or should be true of America. It’s about more than liberty. It’s habit, language, customs. Etc. The issue here is a reluctance to admit American as an ethnicity.

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